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		<title>By: duke</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-196266</link>
		<dc:creator>duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex 20 try always at auction .com they have two models up now and they r updated constanjtly. I have even found name brands occasionally. Most r chinese ty movements though. 32 degrees makes a fine watch and Jacot  particularly the kigsbridge and the fordham I pd 1-200 at shopnbc when they had them now I have been getting for under 100 consistantly.
Duke good luck with the Bolle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex 20 try always at auction .com they have two models up now and they r updated constanjtly. I have even found name brands occasionally. Most r chinese ty movements though. 32 degrees makes a fine watch and Jacot  particularly the kigsbridge and the fordham I pd 1-200 at shopnbc when they had them now I have been getting for under 100 consistantly.<br />
Duke good luck with the Bolle</p>
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		<title>By: C. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-196230</link>
		<dc:creator>C. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had Louis Bolle, Jacot, and a few others... I have been happy.. searcging around for the 25 to 55 dollars deals on these watches is fun.... they are not worth the MSRP but are very solidfor the 20 to 200 dollar range... if you look at watches in that price range these watches seem to be a step above. I had LB watch that I wore all the time for years now... i have beat that watch up but it still works great... 
ubid.com has been a good place for these watches ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had Louis Bolle, Jacot, and a few others&#8230; I have been happy.. searcging around for the 25 to 55 dollars deals on these watches is fun&#8230;. they are not worth the MSRP but are very solidfor the 20 to 200 dollar range&#8230; if you look at watches in that price range these watches seem to be a step above. I had LB watch that I wore all the time for years now&#8230; i have beat that watch up but it still works great&#8230;<br />
ubid.com has been a good place for these watches ..</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-196223</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to learn about the Louis Bolle line of watches including where they come from, who distributes them, and why there&#039;s all this hubbub, checkout my LB guide on eBay. Dean

http://reviews.ebay.com/LOUIS-BOLLE-WATCHES-Q-amp-A_W0QQugidZ10000000005483308</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to learn about the Louis Bolle line of watches including where they come from, who distributes them, and why there&#8217;s all this hubbub, checkout my LB guide on eBay. Dean</p>
<p><a href="http://reviews.ebay.com/LOUIS-BOLLE-WATCHES-Q-amp-A_W0QQugidZ10000000005483308" rel="nofollow">http://reviews.ebay.com/LOUIS-BOLLE-WATCHES-Q-amp-A_W0QQugidZ10000000005483308</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-195846</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to give my two cents worth on this topic! 

I too recently have discovered this huge Watch Auction venue! So many brands of watches available through these &quot;Auction Sales&quot;. And the same exact brands also available, via this avenue! Rosseau, Romilly, Louis Richard, S.U.G., 32 Degrees, Wohler, Jacot, Tavan, Bernoulli, with an occasional Louis Bolle, Invicta, Croton, Edox, Elini, thrown in! The MSRP shown is definitely a high price bait grabber totally misleading the customer! 

Many of these watch companies I&#039;ve never heard of before? Obviously each company offloaded watches at cost or below cost value, so to at least have a cash flow. This should be telling on their actual manufacturing value! Some watch manufacturers don&#039;t even have a web site anymore? And I can&#039;t find any reason why, like bankruptcy or corporate takeover or a buyout? No info available online too, curious? 

I did fall for a few of these styles! They looked beautiful too, but the MSRP was what swayed my buying decision! Won&#039;t do that again! I don&#039;t believe I got scammed but probably paid a bit over actual cost! At least it wasn&#039;t a huge dollar amount.

I believe these Auctions still produce a profit too! Especially when several unaware buyers want the same beautiful looking watch, making the bidding price go up! It seems many sell at or around $60-$100+ a watch, with MSRP averaging around $1195. You would think you got a steal of a deal. But you probably paid well over cost! 

Hope this is helpful for the unaware watch buyer! The &quot;Watch Auctions&quot; are mostly unknown no name brands using a high MSRP price rarely applicable to that brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to give my two cents worth on this topic! </p>
<p>I too recently have discovered this huge Watch Auction venue! So many brands of watches available through these &#8220;Auction Sales&#8221;. And the same exact brands also available, via this avenue! Rosseau, Romilly, Louis Richard, S.U.G., 32 Degrees, Wohler, Jacot, Tavan, Bernoulli, with an occasional Louis Bolle, Invicta, Croton, Edox, Elini, thrown in! The MSRP shown is definitely a high price bait grabber totally misleading the customer! </p>
<p>Many of these watch companies I&#8217;ve never heard of before? Obviously each company offloaded watches at cost or below cost value, so to at least have a cash flow. This should be telling on their actual manufacturing value! Some watch manufacturers don&#8217;t even have a web site anymore? And I can&#8217;t find any reason why, like bankruptcy or corporate takeover or a buyout? No info available online too, curious? </p>
<p>I did fall for a few of these styles! They looked beautiful too, but the MSRP was what swayed my buying decision! Won&#8217;t do that again! I don&#8217;t believe I got scammed but probably paid a bit over actual cost! At least it wasn&#8217;t a huge dollar amount.</p>
<p>I believe these Auctions still produce a profit too! Especially when several unaware buyers want the same beautiful looking watch, making the bidding price go up! It seems many sell at or around $60-$100+ a watch, with MSRP averaging around $1195. You would think you got a steal of a deal. But you probably paid well over cost! </p>
<p>Hope this is helpful for the unaware watch buyer! The &#8220;Watch Auctions&#8221; are mostly unknown no name brands using a high MSRP price rarely applicable to that brand.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-195598</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i own several of these watches mostly purchased through SHOPNBC....SUG, Woeler,Rosseau TAVAN, etc..I always get compliments when I wear these watches and they keep accurate time..Remember they say compare the prices with similar features...I also own a number of high end watches from a Movado to a Rolex and honestly I will not pay these steep prices again for these high end watches..I have given them as gifts as well..My wife also owns a number of the ladies watches. Overall, I&#039;m extremely happy about these watches .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i own several of these watches mostly purchased through SHOPNBC&#8230;.SUG, Woeler,Rosseau TAVAN, etc..I always get compliments when I wear these watches and they keep accurate time..Remember they say compare the prices with similar features&#8230;I also own a number of high end watches from a Movado to a Rolex and honestly I will not pay these steep prices again for these high end watches..I have given them as gifts as well..My wife also owns a number of the ladies watches. Overall, I&#8217;m extremely happy about these watches .</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-195556</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been wearing my bolle watch for 5years and no problems. it&#039;s not ascam to buyat $200 with an msrp much more . what is a scam is buying a watch at $5000 just based on a name</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been wearing my bolle watch for 5years and no problems. it&#8217;s not ascam to buyat $200 with an msrp much more . what is a scam is buying a watch at $5000 just based on a name</p>
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		<title>By: dEaN</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-195114</link>
		<dc:creator>dEaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got an automatic LB skeleton from ebay 2 years ago for $100USD.  I have worn it every day with minimal problems.  the glass cracked but was replaced for $30 at a local shop.  the shop could not believe i only paid $100 for it.  he honestly believed it could sell for $1000+.  it is accurate to about one minute / month and i will most certainly by another when it finally does die.  

we buy all kinds of alleged &quot;high end&quot; products from china, etc....there&#039;s no reason why they can&#039;t make a decent watch.  LB get an A+ for value from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got an automatic LB skeleton from ebay 2 years ago for $100USD.  I have worn it every day with minimal problems.  the glass cracked but was replaced for $30 at a local shop.  the shop could not believe i only paid $100 for it.  he honestly believed it could sell for $1000+.  it is accurate to about one minute / month and i will most certainly by another when it finally does die.  </p>
<p>we buy all kinds of alleged &#8220;high end&#8221; products from china, etc&#8230;.there&#8217;s no reason why they can&#8217;t make a decent watch.  LB get an A+ for value from me.</p>
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		<title>By: joeS</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-193325</link>
		<dc:creator>joeS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i purchased a tavan laramie swiss quartz watch from ubid.i paid 58usd for it,the watch is beautiful,well made and keeps great time.i am not a big fan of buying something only because of a brand name.if you want to spend thousands on a rolex,that is fine,but,the time will be the same on my tavan....buy what works....buy what you can afford.....nobody really cares how much you pay,at least i dont.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i purchased a tavan laramie swiss quartz watch from ubid.i paid 58usd for it,the watch is beautiful,well made and keeps great time.i am not a big fan of buying something only because of a brand name.if you want to spend thousands on a rolex,that is fine,but,the time will be the same on my tavan&#8230;.buy what works&#8230;.buy what you can afford&#8230;..nobody really cares how much you pay,at least i dont.</p>
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		<title>By: angelo D</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-193144</link>
		<dc:creator>angelo D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought an L.B Automatic last December 2009 and I&#039;m very happy with this watch.

I paid it around $150.00 Canadian. Looks great and I always get compliments on it.
Remember it&#039;s not the price that counts if you like the watch then it&#039;s perfect. Nobody really cares how much you spend on it as long as your happy.

Ciao from Montreal
Angelo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an L.B Automatic last December 2009 and I&#8217;m very happy with this watch.</p>
<p>I paid it around $150.00 Canadian. Looks great and I always get compliments on it.<br />
Remember it&#8217;s not the price that counts if you like the watch then it&#8217;s perfect. Nobody really cares how much you spend on it as long as your happy.</p>
<p>Ciao from Montreal<br />
Angelo</p>
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		<title>By: Frank V</title>
		<link>http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/11/16/another-scam/comment-page-6/#comment-193114</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 4 Louis Bolle watches and COULD NOT BE HAPPIER also I bought S.U.G models as gifts from a ebay seller smark1004 and got outstanding prices everything under $125. I had a 32 Degree model that broke after 9 months from this seller and got a BRAND NEW WATCH in 3 weeks!!  I guess it depends on who you buy from some of the resellers have a relationship with the supplier and can get things done. Try smark1004 on ebay if you want a quality watch and a dealer who takes care of their customer. I am VERY SATISIFIED!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 4 Louis Bolle watches and COULD NOT BE HAPPIER also I bought S.U.G models as gifts from a ebay seller smark1004 and got outstanding prices everything under $125. I had a 32 Degree model that broke after 9 months from this seller and got a BRAND NEW WATCH in 3 weeks!!  I guess it depends on who you buy from some of the resellers have a relationship with the supplier and can get things done. Try smark1004 on ebay if you want a quality watch and a dealer who takes care of their customer. I am VERY SATISIFIED!!</p>
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