Comments on: Mark V http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/12/30/mark-v/ watchweblog Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:54:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Stephen Burnard http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/12/30/mark-v/#comment-33919 Stephen Burnard Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:20:42 +0000 /?p=187#comment-33919 I have one of these with box & documents from sale in 07/82. Minor scuffing to base of band otherwise watch is as good as new. I have rarely worn it as I always found it a little too heavy on the wrist. Let me know if you are interested. Regards, Steve. I have one of these with box & documents from sale in 07/82. Minor scuffing to base of band otherwise watch is as good as new. I have rarely worn it as I always found it a little too heavy on the wrist. Let me know if you are interested.

Regards, Steve.

]]> By: georges http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/12/30/mark-v/#comment-264 georges Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:09:41 +0000 /?p=187#comment-264 I have seen a mark V for a price of 3200€ last time but perfectly nos.That makes you think before buying it. And even a 861 teutonic speedmaster is near 2900€ here in France. I think you must check which watches are sold at various vintage watch retailers and probably see what can be done.German speedmaster models are growing up in value every year plus they are very unusual as compared to the other speedies. I have seen a mark V for a price of 3200€ last time but perfectly nos.That makes you think before buying it. And even a 861 teutonic speedmaster is near 2900€ here in France. I think you must check which watches are sold at various vintage watch retailers and probably see what can be done.German speedmaster models are growing up in value every year plus they are very unusual as compared to the other speedies.

]]> By: Chuck Maddox http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/12/30/mark-v/#comment-263 Chuck Maddox Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:55:09 +0000 /?p=187#comment-263 I'd offer him a deal... Tell him to keep his Gray c.861 German while he looks for a Mark V, and you'll keep your eyes open for a suitable Mark V too. If you find one you'll notify him and vice-versa. That way, if he has a reason to sell, he'll be in touch with you. Good Hunting to you both (and I'll keep my eyes open too!)! -- Chuck I’d offer him a deal… Tell him to keep his Gray c.861 German while he looks for a Mark V, and you’ll keep your eyes open for a suitable Mark V too. If you find one you’ll notify him and vice-versa. That way, if he has a reason to sell, he’ll be in touch with you.

Good Hunting to you both (and I’ll keep my eyes open too!)!

– Chuck

]]> By: Robert-Jan Broer http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/12/30/mark-v/#comment-262 Robert-Jan Broer Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:50:56 +0000 /?p=187#comment-262 Thanks for your comments Chuck! Ofcourse, I used your page as a reference for this 'Mark V', or better 'German Speedmaster'. I also showed him your work and he was impressed by it. However, I still don't think he was really convinced that he should keep it, he just keeps forgetting to wind it sometimes :-) I did my best. Best regards, RJ Thanks for your comments Chuck! Ofcourse, I used your page as a reference for this ‘Mark V’, or better ‘German Speedmaster’. I also showed him your work and he was impressed by it. However, I still don’t think he was really convinced that he should keep it, he just keeps forgetting to wind it sometimes :-)

I did my best.

Best regards,

RJ

]]> By: Chuck Maddox http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives/2004/12/30/mark-v/#comment-261 Chuck Maddox Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:41:25 +0000 /?p=187#comment-261 Ironically, thanks to Omega, there are other watches people call Mark V as well... For instance: http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/c1045_in_detail.html#A_c.1045_Instruction_Manual This instruction manual pictures a 176.0014/376.0805 (TV Dial/Bar Bracelet) and is chock-a-brock full of references to the Mark V. Interestingly, I've been calling the c.861 German Market (or Teutonic) 1982 Speedmaster's Mark V cased Speedys for a number of years, even though they pre-date the release of the Mark V in 1984 by two years. I think "German Speedmasters" or "Teutonic Speedmasters" or "Mark V-styled Cased Speedmasters" is a little more accurate or descriptive, but I don't think anyone will outright call you wrong for referring to them that way. None of these cased Speedmasters (or the non-Speedmaster Moon phase in a similar case) is easy to find. The Silver and Black Dial Stainless Steel c.861's seem to be the most common. Likewise the "actual" (as marked on the dial) Mark V is very difficult to come by. If one is serious about obtaining one and sees one offered they should be prepared to bid high for there seem to be fewer and fewer offered these days. My congratulations to him on a rare Speedmaster. -- Chuck Ironically, thanks to Omega, there are other watches people call Mark V as well… For instance: http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/c1045_in_detail.html#A_c.1045_Instruction_Manual This instruction manual pictures a 176.0014/376.0805 (TV Dial/Bar Bracelet) and is chock-a-brock full of references to the Mark V.

Interestingly, I’ve been calling the c.861 German Market (or Teutonic) 1982 Speedmaster’s Mark V cased Speedys for a number of years, even though they pre-date the release of the Mark V in 1984 by two years. I think “German Speedmasters” or “Teutonic Speedmasters” or “Mark V-styled Cased Speedmasters” is a little more accurate or descriptive, but I don’t think anyone will outright call you wrong for referring to them that way.

None of these cased Speedmasters (or the non-Speedmaster Moon phase in a similar case) is easy to find. The Silver and Black Dial Stainless Steel c.861’s seem to be the most common. Likewise the “actual” (as marked on the dial) Mark V is very difficult to come by. If one is serious about obtaining one and sees one offered they should be prepared to bid high for there seem to be fewer and fewer offered these days.

My congratulations to him on a rare Speedmaster.

– Chuck

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