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Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches – 3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Introduction

Patek Philippe is being regarded as one of the most prestigious watch companies from Switzerland. This always has been the case. Their – often – wealthy clients are located all over the world and among them are royals and captains of industry. It is a brand with one of the best-known slogans, “You never actually own a Patek Philippe. You merely look after it for the next generation.”. Whether this is true or not, does not matter, owners of a Patek Philippe watch or future buyers of a Patek Philippe watch gladly refer to this slogan to justify their expensive timepiece.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

In the mid-1970s Patek Philippe, being famous for their high quality watches with complications or the flat gold dress watches, decided to manufacture a luxury sports watch. A few years earlier, in 1972, Audemars Piguet showed with their Royal Oak watch that an haute horlogerie brand could actually get away with a luxury sports watch in stainless steel.

Patek Philippe hired the same man who was responsible for designing the Royal Oak, Gérald Genta. Genta designed a watch with very specific characteristics, such as the porthole design, the combination of polished and satin brushed parts on the case and bracelet and – of course – the integrated stainless steel bracelet. All was done with the highest possible grade of finish. In 1976, Patek Philippe introduced the Nautilus to the public.

A large part of the Patek Philippe clients did not like the Nautilus. A sports watch did not make sense for a company like Patek Philippe, who always had their focus on classic shaped (gold) timepieces with – or without – complications. The Nautilus became the enfant terrible of the collection and it actually still is.

People who are in the market for a Patek Philippe Nautilus tend to make the decision between a brand new Nautilus from the actual collection or buying a pre-owned vintage Nautilus from the mid-late 1970s. When it comes down to the price tag, a pre-owned vintage model is as expensive (or sometimes even more expensive) than a new one.

This article zooms in on the very first Patek Philippe Nautilus, by the reference of 3700/1A, and the current Nautilus, reference 5711/1A. On first hand, nothing much seems to have changed in the last 36-37 years, but if we take a closer look, we are able to see what has happened to the watch.

The Porthole Case

The case of the Patek Philippe is designed like a porthole. The ref.3700/1A model consists of two parts basically, the case and the bezel. The bezel and case are screwed to eachother, like a porthole.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

The case of the 3700/1A Nautilus measures 42mm in diameter, especially for 1976 a considerably large case. It was soon nick named Nautilus Jumbo.

When Patek Philippe re-introduced the Nautilus (5711/1A) in 2006, about 30 years after the introduction of the Nautilus model, the case had become a bit bigger. The new – or current – case measures 43mm and is a little bit thicker. The ref. 5711/1A also has a three-part constructed case. Besides the bezel and case construction, the case back is now a separate part. According to purists, the two-part construction of the 3700/1A is a bit more interesting as it captures the essence of the porthole design.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Another aspect that had effect on the appearance of the case was the use of a new movement (more about that later) or beter said, Patek Philippe decided to add a seconds hand to the new reference. The placement of a seconds hand had quite some effect on the appearance of the watch, as the upper part (or bezel) became a bit thicker as well. Gérald Genta probably had a weak spot for hour and minute-only watches, as the original Royal Oak was also a watch without a seconds hand.

The Dial

The dial of the Nautilus also changed in appearance if we compare the 3700/1A to the 5711/1A. Although the pattern on the dial remained, the color of the dial changed. The new Nautilus dial is a bit more ‘electric’, as the green/blue color changes a bit when you rotate the watch towards and from the light. The 3700/1A Nautilus remains to have the same blue-ish dial color, no matter from what angle you will observe it.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1APatek Philippe Nautilus 5711/1A

The wording on the dial ‘Patek Philippe’ and ‘Geneve’ has moved a notch towards 12 o’clock and the font changed as well. The typography of the Nautilus 3700/1A fits the 1970s style and is a bit bold compared to the current model.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1APatek Philippe Nautilus 3700/1A

If you look at the hands, you will immediately notice the ‘seconds’ hand on the 5711/1A as opposed to the two hands dial of the 3700/1A. It is a matter of taste and convenience probably, but the dial of the 3700/1A appears to be more soothing.

The Movement

When the Nautilus was introduced, Patek Philippe used the mechanical automatic winding movement caliber 28-255C. This ultra thin movement was based on Jaeger-LeCoultre caliber 920 movement and therefore the same movement as used in the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak reference 5402 of 1972. This movement, now only being used by Audemars Piguet as caliber 2121, is only 3.05mm in height (including rotor) and does not feature a second hand. The rotor uses rails to roll on instead of ball bearings.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

The Nautilus 5711/1A has a mechanical automatic winding movement caliber 324 S C inside. In-house developed and manufacured by Patek Philippe. A beautiful finished and constructed movement, but not as flat as its predecessor. Also, as you can see on the pictures below, the movement is visible through the caseback on the current Nautilus model.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Because of the three-part constructued case, caliber 324 S C movement, the appearance of the 5711/1A is a bit different from the 3700/1A model. It is thicker, it has more space between dial and sapphire crystal (due to the second hand) and has a transparent case back. However, Patek Philippe succeeded in maintaining the sleek and elegant design of the Nautilus.

The Bracelet

Although many sports watches feature a thick and solid feeling bracelet, these Nautilus bracelets are very thin and sleek. In wearing, there is almost no difference between the bracelet of the 3700/1A and the new 5711/1A. The main difference is in the folding clasp as you can see on the photos. The 3700/1A bracelet has quite a simple folding mechanism, two pieces of metal with no specific finish or engravings. It does the job though. For safety reasons, there is a flip lock on the clasp as well, to make sure the folding clasp can’t open by accident.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

The new 5711/1A bracelet has a double folding clasp and a flip lock. The double folding clasp looks much nicer of course and fulfills the requirements of the modern luxury watch. Both bracelets have the Patek Philippe logo engraved in the flip lock.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Which Nautilus should I buy?

The question that remains is: “Which one should I buy?” That’s not an easy question to answer though, as the buyer of such a timepiece is mainly driven on emotional arguments. However, despite that you can’t go wrong with either of these watches, there are some differences in the construction of the case, movement and dial that might trigger the purist to go for the Nautilus reference 3700/1A. If you admire the Nautilus design, heritage and perfect Patek Philippe-finish but you don’t want to have a pre-owned watch or the worries of high repair costs of a vintage watch, you might want to go for the modern Nautilus 5711/1A.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

All photos except for the movement ones are shot by me. Thanks to Gerard of www.in2watches.com for the Nautilus watches.

Speedy Tuesday – OMEGA Speedmaster Professional Moonphase 3575.20

Speedmaster Broad Arrow or Professional?

It’s Speedy Tuesday! Don’t let the broad arrow hands fool you! Often confused with the Speedmaster Broad Arrow, this Moonphase model is definitely part of the “Speedmaster Professional” collection. This Speedmaster Professional Moonphase is based on the Speedmaster ’57 re-edition ref. 3894.50.37 that was introduced in 1997/1998. It was in production from 1999 till 2003 and has the famous hand-wound Lemania based caliber 1866 movement. This is a modified version of the caliber 1861 movement, that can be found in the current line-up of Speedmaster Professional ‘Moonwatch’ timepieces.

Speedy Tuesday   OMEGA Speedmaster Professional Moonphase 3575.20

This Speedmaster Professional Moon Phase ref. 3575.20 clearly has ‘Professional’ written on the dial, but there just seems to be some confusion all the time about the Moonwatch and all the different varieties on it. The easiest way to tell a ‘Moonwatch’ or ‘Professional’ from other Speedmaster variations is the hand-wound movement (exceptions are the quartz/digital models of course, like the Speedmaster Pro X-33).

White Gold Bezel

You probably are familiar with the white gold Speedmaster Professional with a Moonphase complication (ref. 3689.30.31). This (much) cheaper reference 3575.20 Speedmaster Pro Moonphase also has a white gold element! As you might see on the picture above, the bezel has a slightly different tone than the case and bracelet. It is an 18 carat white gold bezel. Where the white gold bezel on the Speedy Pro Moonphase (ref. 3689.30.31) has a black aluminum inlay with the tachymeter scale, this solid white gold bezel on the ref. 3575.20 Speedy is just one piece with an engraved tachymeter scale. Also on the photo below, you can probably see the different tone of the bezel compared to the case and bracelet.

Speedy Tuesday   OMEGA Speedmaster Professional Moonphase 3575.20

As you can see on the photo above, the corrector for the calendar and moon phases are located on the left side of the case. The watch comes with a corrector (picture below shows the corrector in its small leather protector) that can be used to adjust these pushers. One of the flaws with these watches is that these correctors get dust and other stuff inside which results in either a bit of resistance when operating them or either no functionality at all anymore. Cleaning with warm water and a soft tooth brush might help and otherwise a quick service at your watchmaker.

Speedy Tuesday   OMEGA Speedmaster Professional Moonphase 3575.20

However, my personal take on this is that you should always calculate a service overhaul in the price you bid or offer on a pre-owned timepiece this age (or older). Consult your OMEGA dealer for the actual prices on servicing watches. There are a few price differences when it comes to servicing older watches or more complicated watches.

First Watch Worn On The Moon

I truly think the Speedmaster Professional Moonphase reference 3575.20 is an awesome watch, both on a stainless steel bracelet (ref.1998) or a leather alligator strap.  The fact that it has a moon phase complication and a calendar is a nice addition to the otherwise ‘basic’ Speedmaster Professional with hand-wound movement. The dial – that is rather cream colored than white – has blue hour indicators and the hands are blue as well. This makes it a very legible dial.

One of the things I am not particularly fond of is the engraving in the caseback. Although I like it very much in the regular Speedmaster Professional ‘Moonwatch’ (ref.3570.50), it does not make sense in this Moonphase variation. This is not the watch that is flight-qualified for NASA missions nor was it the first watch worn on the Moon with this moonphase complication. I understand that some people will enjoy the fact that OMEGA paid tribute to their Moonlanding heritage with this caseback on a Moonphase watch, but I would rather have seen either a transparent caseback showing the beautiful Lemania movement or a caseback with just the Seamonster engraving and ‘Speedmaster’ wording. I guess I am a Speedy purist anyway.

Speedy Tuesday   OMEGA Speedmaster Professional Moonphase 3575.20

Availability

A very short production time might be the cause of only a limited availability on the pre-owned market of these Speedmaster Professional Moon Phase models. We currently only found 5 of them for sale on the biggest watch market platform (Chrono24) on-line with prices between 2950 and 3500 Euro.

For vintage purchases and for watches that are older than 2000, OMEGA has a very nice service in place that enables you to order an extract of the archive of your watch. Go to this page and fill out the details. For 75 Swiss Francs, you will receive a nice extract of your watch with details on production and shipping.

However, I only advice you to buy this particular model if everything is complete (boxes, instruction book, warranty cards etc). A watch this age should be complete in my opinion.

The Speedmaster Professional 3575.20 has initially been offered for sale with either a stainless steel bracelet or a leather strap with a folding clasp. Ordering a spare stainless steel bracelet is more expensive than getting a leather strap for this watch, so look out for the models that come with the stainless steel bracelet.

Speedy Tuesday   OMEGA Speedmaster Professional Moonphase 3575.20

If you have a Speedmaster you want to share with the world on Speedy Tuesday, drop us a line!

Please visit the official OMEGA website at www.omegawatches.com, they also have a section displaying these out-of-production Speedmaster watches.

Liu Bolin – The Art Of Camouflage And Watch Magazines

Liu Bolin (1973) is an artist from China who’s famous for his camouflage work. On himself. You probably have seen some of his work on Facebook updates or other blogs, where he totally disappears or embeds in the background. Liu Bolin is also known as “The Invisible Man” and most popular works are from his “Hiding in the City” series.

Liu Bolin   The Art Of Camouflage And Watch Magazines

During the last few days Liu Bolin has been active in Germany and did a very nice camouflage piece in the MIK in Ludwigsburg (Germany). He made himself disappear in front of a newsstand. On Liu Bolin you will find the German watch magazine called Uhren Magazine. On the right of Liu, you see the watch magazine Chronos. Both German titles and regarded as the best out there.

Other example of work from Liu Bolin are:

Liu Bolin   The Art Of Camouflage And Watch Magazines

Liu Bolin   The Art Of Camouflage And Watch Magazines

More information about the current expo in Germany can be found here.

More information about Uhren Magzine and Chronos can be found here. If you are a resident of Germany, Austria, Switzerland or The Netherlands (and can understand German), make sure to click the Inside Basel & Geneva event banner on the right. An interesting watch diner event that is being organized by the publisher of these watch magazines.

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