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Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches – 3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Introduction

Patek Philippe is being regarded as one of the most prestigious watch companies from Switzerland. This always has been the case. Their – often – wealthy clients are located all over the world and among them are royals and captains of industry. It is a brand with one of the best-known slogans, “You never actually own a Patek Philippe. You merely look after it for the next generation.”. Whether this is true or not, does not matter, owners of a Patek Philippe watch or future buyers of a Patek Philippe watch gladly refer to this slogan to justify their expensive timepiece.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

In the mid-1970s Patek Philippe, being famous for their high quality watches with complications or the flat gold dress watches, decided to manufacture a luxury sports watch. A few years earlier, in 1972, Audemars Piguet showed with their Royal Oak watch that an haute horlogerie brand could actually get away with a luxury sports watch in stainless steel.

Patek Philippe hired the same man who was responsible for designing the Royal Oak, Gérald Genta. Genta designed a watch with very specific characteristics, such as the porthole design, the combination of polished and satin brushed parts on the case and bracelet and – of course – the integrated stainless steel bracelet. All was done with the highest possible grade of finish. In 1976, Patek Philippe introduced the Nautilus to the public.

A large part of the Patek Philippe clients did not like the Nautilus. A sports watch did not make sense for a company like Patek Philippe, who always had their focus on classic shaped (gold) timepieces with – or without – complications. The Nautilus became the enfant terrible of the collection and it actually still is.

People who are in the market for a Patek Philippe Nautilus tend to make the decision between a brand new Nautilus from the actual collection or buying a pre-owned vintage Nautilus from the mid-late 1970s. When it comes down to the price tag, a pre-owned vintage model is as expensive (or sometimes even more expensive) than a new one.

This article zooms in on the very first Patek Philippe Nautilus, by the reference of 3700/1A, and the current Nautilus, reference 5711/1A. On first hand, nothing much seems to have changed in the last 36-37 years, but if we take a closer look, we are able to see what has happened to the watch.

The Porthole Case

The case of the Patek Philippe is designed like a porthole. The ref.3700/1A model consists of two parts basically, the case and the bezel. The bezel and case are screwed to eachother, like a porthole.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

The case of the 3700/1A Nautilus measures 42mm in diameter, especially for 1976 a considerably large case. It was soon nick named Nautilus Jumbo.

When Patek Philippe re-introduced the Nautilus (5711/1A) in 2006, about 30 years after the introduction of the Nautilus model, the case had become a bit bigger. The new – or current – case measures 43mm and is a little bit thicker. The ref. 5711/1A also has a three-part constructed case. Besides the bezel and case construction, the case back is now a separate part. According to purists, the two-part construction of the 3700/1A is a bit more interesting as it captures the essence of the porthole design.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Another aspect that had effect on the appearance of the case was the use of a new movement (more about that later) or beter said, Patek Philippe decided to add a seconds hand to the new reference. The placement of a seconds hand had quite some effect on the appearance of the watch, as the upper part (or bezel) became a bit thicker as well. Gérald Genta probably had a weak spot for hour and minute-only watches, as the original Royal Oak was also a watch without a seconds hand.

The Dial

The dial of the Nautilus also changed in appearance if we compare the 3700/1A to the 5711/1A. Although the pattern on the dial remained, the color of the dial changed. The new Nautilus dial is a bit more ‘electric’, as the green/blue color changes a bit when you rotate the watch towards and from the light. The 3700/1A Nautilus remains to have the same blue-ish dial color, no matter from what angle you will observe it.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1APatek Philippe Nautilus 5711/1A

The wording on the dial ‘Patek Philippe’ and ‘Geneve’ has moved a notch towards 12 o’clock and the font changed as well. The typography of the Nautilus 3700/1A fits the 1970s style and is a bit bold compared to the current model.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1APatek Philippe Nautilus 3700/1A

If you look at the hands, you will immediately notice the ‘seconds’ hand on the 5711/1A as opposed to the two hands dial of the 3700/1A. It is a matter of taste and convenience probably, but the dial of the 3700/1A appears to be more soothing.

The Movement

When the Nautilus was introduced, Patek Philippe used the mechanical automatic winding movement caliber 28-255C. This ultra thin movement was based on Jaeger-LeCoultre caliber 920 movement and therefore the same movement as used in the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak reference 5402 of 1972. This movement, now only being used by Audemars Piguet as caliber 2121, is only 3.05mm in height (including rotor) and does not feature a second hand. The rotor uses rails to roll on instead of ball bearings.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

The Nautilus 5711/1A has a mechanical automatic winding movement caliber 324 S C inside. In-house developed and manufacured by Patek Philippe. A beautiful finished and constructed movement, but not as flat as its predecessor. Also, as you can see on the pictures below, the movement is visible through the caseback on the current Nautilus model.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Because of the three-part constructued case, caliber 324 S C movement, the appearance of the 5711/1A is a bit different from the 3700/1A model. It is thicker, it has more space between dial and sapphire crystal (due to the second hand) and has a transparent case back. However, Patek Philippe succeeded in maintaining the sleek and elegant design of the Nautilus.

The Bracelet

Although many sports watches feature a thick and solid feeling bracelet, these Nautilus bracelets are very thin and sleek. In wearing, there is almost no difference between the bracelet of the 3700/1A and the new 5711/1A. The main difference is in the folding clasp as you can see on the photos. The 3700/1A bracelet has quite a simple folding mechanism, two pieces of metal with no specific finish or engravings. It does the job though. For safety reasons, there is a flip lock on the clasp as well, to make sure the folding clasp can’t open by accident.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

The new 5711/1A bracelet has a double folding clasp and a flip lock. The double folding clasp looks much nicer of course and fulfills the requirements of the modern luxury watch. Both bracelets have the Patek Philippe logo engraved in the flip lock.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

Which Nautilus should I buy?

The question that remains is: “Which one should I buy?” That’s not an easy question to answer though, as the buyer of such a timepiece is mainly driven on emotional arguments. However, despite that you can’t go wrong with either of these watches, there are some differences in the construction of the case, movement and dial that might trigger the purist to go for the Nautilus reference 3700/1A. If you admire the Nautilus design, heritage and perfect Patek Philippe-finish but you don’t want to have a pre-owned watch or the worries of high repair costs of a vintage watch, you might want to go for the modern Nautilus 5711/1A.

Comparison Of Two Patek Philippe Nautilus Watches   3700/1A Versus 5711/1A

All photos except for the movement ones are shot by me. Thanks to Gerard of www.in2watches.com for the Nautilus watches.

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R – Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Nautilus Chronograph 5980 in gold

Patek Philippe surprised us this year with an all gold Nautilus Chronograph reference 5980/1R and gold/steel combination of the watch as well (reference 5980/1AR). Although we feel that a Nautilus should be in stainless steel (unless you are Scott Disick), we actually could appreciate these gold versions of the iconic Genta timepiece.

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Technically speaking, nothing changed compared to the stainless steel Nautilus 5980/1A model. Both have the automatic winding PP caliber 28-520 C movement with chronograph function with the hour and minute recorder in one sub counter. The central seconds hand is the chronograph hand. Things like the level of water resistance or the case diameter also remained the same. It is purely the used materials that changed. And what a change!

Superb Finish and Details

Just like all the other Nautilus models by Patek Philippe (did you read our post on the 3700/1A or 5711/1A already? or what to think of our Gerald Genta BBQ where we had several of them?), the level of finish is just amazing. The very subtle satin brushed pieces like the top of the bezel combines perfectly with the polished parts (side of the bezel, center links, facets on the lugs) and just plays with the light. With gold, this is perhaps even more the case.

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

The high number of brushed parts and subtle polished edges and parts make it a watch that has so many details to enjoy. It is actually a very difficult watch to capture on film (or in JPG of course) compared to the real life experience of the Nautilus. If you haven’t seen one in the flesh, make sure to visit a watch dealer who has them in stock in order to see what we are talking about. Our photographer Bert Buijsrogge did a nice job during our appointment with Patek Philippe in Basel to capture the new Nautilus Chronograph watches in the best possible way.

The Patek Philippe Nautilus Chrono 5980/1R retails for 68.870 Euro

Gold/Steel Nautilus Chrono 5980/1AR

Another surprise was the gold/steel Nautilus Chronograph reference 5980/1AR that was shown to us during our meeting with Patek Philippe. Although we’re not a big fan of this combination in most cases, this Patek definitely falls into the exceptions category. Like a beautiful lady that can just wear anything and still looks wonderful, this Patek Philippe Nautilus seems to be able to be stunning in any material. Of course, like we wrote before in this article, you should really see it in the flesh before judging this timepiece. With regards to specifications, it is equal to the other 5980 references. Only the weight is different to the all gold model and the all stainless steel model.

Oh, and the price of course. This Nautilus Chrono 5980/1AR retails for 50.500 Euro.

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

Patek Philippe Introduces The Rose Gold Nautilus Chronograph 5980/1R   Live Pictures and Official Price

More information can be found on the official Patek Philippe website.

George Daniels – A Master Watchmaker & His Art

Michael Clerizo, friend of the show for a long time now, already had written a beautiful book called ‘Masters of Contemporary Watchmaking‘. Clerizo (Wallstreet Journal contributor) just finished another great book – another masterpiece – called ‘George Daniels, A Master Watchmaker & His Art’.

George Daniels   A Master Watchmaker & His Art

Many of you will know George Daniels for his (important) work on the Co-Axial escapement. One of the – or perhaps the – most important inventions in watchmaking which has been adopted by OMEGA since 1999. However, Daniels already came up with the first co-axial escapement in 1975. After having having it tried and tested in a pocket watch first, he also applied his invention into wristwatches. By coincidence, he also used an OMEGA watch to test it. A Speedmaster chronograph that we now know as Mark 4.5, with a Lemania (caliber 5100) based movement. However, it took Daniels till 1994 before he found a manufacturer (OMEGA) that eventually would adopt his invention into wrist watches.

George Daniels   A Master Watchmaker & His Art

I don’t want to spoil anything from this book, but I found the part ‘Daniels life between 1975 – 2011′ to be very inspiring. Even to a level that I almost couldn’t stop reading it. Clerizo did a perfect job capturing the emotion of Daniels whilst talking about this period in his life. I could actually picture the setting in which Daniels had his discussions with the different watch manufacturers he tried to convince of his co-axial escapement.

George Daniels   A Master Watchmaker & His Art

Clerizo also pictures the 25 watches that Daniels made, unique watches that he created with antiquated watchmaking tools. These beautiful photographs are placed between the different stages of Daniels’ life. A truly interesting biography of a watchmaker on the Isle of Man. A distinguished Englishman that visited Biel driving his open Bentley in the 1990s while visiting the brand that helped him realizing one of his dreams. That must have been a crazy sight for the Swiss people living there.

George Daniels   A Master Watchmaker & His Art

While he devoted a large part of his life to invent and develop the perfect escapement, he created beautiful (complicated) timepieces as well, including a Grand Complication that he completed in 1987. The book is packed with high resolution photographs of the watches he made in his life. 23 pocket watches and 2 wristwatches. Besides these photographs of timepieces, also copies of original drawings are included to spice it up.

George Daniels   A Master Watchmaker & His ArtA Master Watchmaker and His Art will give you a peek (more than that actually) into the life of the legendary George Daniels. Both his watchmaking career as well as his private life. Clerizo met Daniels when he was already 75 years old, 10 years before he passed away on that October day in 2011.

Whether you appreciate fine watchmaking, (OMEGA) co-axial movements or just reading biographies, this is the book to get. Put it on your birthday’s wish list or just buy it yourself via Thames & Hudson for 75 GBP.

You can buy George Daniels – A Master Watchmaker & His Art by clicking this link.

All images used in this blog post are from the book.

George Daniels   A Master Watchmaker & His Art

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